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Aussie Jo's avatar

I have no idea what MAGA is never heard the term but I am an Aussie, maybe that's why. Anyway I found this an interesting read.

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Beedledee Beedledum's avatar

Hmmm... interesting article. Glad he is leaving MAGA, and wonder what he sees as a viable alternative to anything we have in our limited choices? Much I agree with, some seems off the mark historically - for instance, the billionaire class. being recent, rather than simply blatant because it now has full power globally - but it's been around longer than anyone can say, through family dynasties (such as the Drumpfs and far far further back by many centuries and eons)

I am confused by the language of the Preamble to our Constitution, so clearly stated for Equality of all peoples, and how the people in charge never honored that language (they contiuned to practice slavery, making sure that women had no rights or voice, the massacre of First Nations, for instance) When did it get co-opted? From the beginning, I think. The Iroquois Confederacy had done equality already in their own governance and leadership, for hundreds of years before that So the idea of making North America - USA in particular - 'great' again - as if we were, as if we lived up to that Preamble... sticks in my craw, especially the 'again' part -when was it so great? THIS, is how and why a Trump, and MAGA. happened. The wake up call we need goes well beyond party politics - it is a spiritual thing. We need spiritual CPR, a return to Critical Thinking being taught in Public schools, and self governance and ownership of as responsibility and a privilege.

Here's an article about the Iroquois Confederacy - in honor of tomorrow's Indigenous Day (yay - finally, no more 'Columbus Day!' At least here in WA.

https://www.pbs.org/native-america/blog/how-the-iroquois-great-law-of-peace-shaped-us-democracy. This is what gives me hope, and I hope we turn to Indigenous peoples to help guide us through these times now and to come, so we can see the light as it is meant to be seen.

You're right in that 'we the people' bought into MAGA and the divide - but I think we need to remember that we were and are conditioned to be divided by those at the top who hope we won't catch on. It takes hard work to look for commonalities and build collaboration. Usually it takes some kind of disaster. Thank you for all your hard work on this, Joyce. I'm focused on local and state elections and initiatives and referendums, where we can actually make a small difference. I'm glad you will start 2025 doing something self nurturing.

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