I keep hearing that tRump and his ilk and cronies are about to overplay their hands. But even if that's true, they've done so much damage already that recovery is going to take decades.
Destruction is so much easier than construction. The wrecking ball does its job in a few hours, destroying what took months or even years to build. And we are being wrecked with abandon.
I forgot to say thank you, Joyce. This is brave and necessary work you are doing. If even one person is reached, wants to dig deeper to see for themselves, or begins to question the connections and patterns, it is not work done in vain.
I hate to even say what I am about to say, but picture an iceberg with about 5% above water. This scratches the surface at least - and the dominoes have been quietly being set up for at least 100 years in THIS empire. You're right; all that has to happen now is the first domino falling. It's not a conspiracy theory if it's happening and been happening.
Also we need to remember that of the two parties that have been allowed (every other 3rd party has been smashed except a few Greens and Libertarians -Thanks to liability-free insider trading of corporations and real estate - LLCs, DBAs, etc - it's hard to know who is giving orders to whom; including the presidents. But.. you're on the right track by looking into Thiel and Musk (and Vance) and the shell games with paypal and technocracy as the way they intend to effect the entire takeover. Which is why I don't feel like participating, no matter what the siren call of technology. Now think lobbyists, who often become CEOs of said corrupt companies - in and out of politics. This is what we have going on - a perpetual revolving door - for at least a century but I think much longer. It has reached crisis state now since billionaires like Musk are blatantly not giving a crap about any of us now.
Libertarians hate taxation - some propose flat tax of 10% - imagine how someone on $10 K a year would feel that, as opposed to billionaires who can offshore and hide most of their assets - a drop in the bucket if they pay at all. But I don't know where they think the money will come from if we don't have a government or at least SOME checks and balances. The people in power want to destroy them all, as we know. That is the crisis we face. I'd like to think they can't. But in speaking with my Canadian friends and Mexican friends, they see it so much clearer than folks here in the USA..
Every president was following orders from On High; we must acknowledge and remember that. (Heather Cox Richardson dives into our history some.) If not, they were bullied or threatened into compliance, or, as in the case of JFK, assassinated. DJT is following orders now. Presidents are the front men - some willingly, some not, once they know what kind of game they're in. The choice then is sell out, comply (to protect loved ones, often), do the minimum they have to of the Agenda and maybe be allowed to get a few 'wins' on their campaign promises, or get out of politics altogether.
It is up to the people on the bottom of the pyramid to change this - and it starts with consciousness. I think we - conservatives, independents, anarchists, progressives, and liberals - whatever labels are used - are in big trouble, Critical-Thinking-Wise. The first thing we all and each must do is throw off our conditioning, which takes a tremendous amount of work and practice - and everything that we've been 'told' is true. The second is to dig down in the muck, as you are doing now. I've been digging for a few decades now, trying not to lose heart. But it is exhausing, and there are folks who've already done so much work on this already.
I'm trying to find common ground even with people very different than me. If 'they' (those with the power, money, and assets) want us to destroy each other and ourselves, this seems to be the most revolutionary act we have right now.
I fully believe musk effed with the elections in battleground states. I’m a voter from Helene-hit western NC. I’ve watched how voting patterns have changed radically since republicans ran all over my state in 2010 and had legislation ready to gerrymander the living Hell out of my formerly purple state. This was just after the Supreme Court began gutting the VRA. So knowing that, the western part of the state voted blue for the first time since 2010. We elected democrats as Gov, Lt. Gov, Att. General, Superintendent of Ed. and Allison Riggs for Supreme Court(that election is STILL up in the air thanks to a sore tail loser republican Jeff Griffin who’s trying to have over 60,000 votes in primarily blue counties, tossed out). Yet after voting for all those Democrats, we are to believe that they then crossed over and gave tramp the presidency? I don’t think so. So I’m pretty sure there was some fuckery going on in those states that really counted.
We are living in a strange world, my hubby has always said there is something about both Musk and Trump that doesn't feel right to him and would trust them as far as he could throw them
You know the old saying about when you point the finger at someone, 3 more are pointing back at you? Well, this proves it in my mind because they've accused the 2020 elections of being rigged, committed acts of violence (and were pardoned by the same regime accusing) etc. It's like the jealous cheater accusing the wife or husband of cheating. It smells rotten, and it likely is.
The playbook for the last 8-10 years has been, whatever we do, accuse the Dems of doing it before they accuse us. So if they've accused the Dems of stealing an election, you can bet the possibility has already been strongly considered in their own camp and in my view, given the cast of characters, more than likely. And because the DNC wouldn't want to admit that the US govt is broken beyond redemption, they would very possibly not make the info public even if they knew. It's normal that when someone accuses someone else of something, it's something they'd think to do themselves and not necessarily anything to do with the accused party. Exactly as you say.
Have you read USA today (of all papers) Op Ed today? ‘Billionaire Musk bought control of US government and conspiracy theorists sure are quiet’ Writer Rex Huppke is right! Where are those complainers from the right on this stunt? And btw- who was their higher bidders? That those baby tech bros and boss chose to expose all our info to me while rapping the US treasury?
PS there was a 2 or 3 day summit in LA called All In, sponsored by David Sacks ,paypal, billionaire David Friedberg and 2 other billionaires that included a high profile line-up: M*sk, JD V%nce, Thiel, Benioff, Megyn Kelly, Mike Ovitz/hollywood, Krysn Simena,and others. Think the presumptive word here, excepting the (I) former AZ senator and perhaps kelly, is billionaire. And the title for conf: rather telling, yes, they were/are All In. I guess our govt was for sale and we didn't even know it. Have you read Kirsten Powers' powerful SubS today?
Some of us were trying to sound the alarm, years ago. Journalists. Comedians even - Lee Camp was one - and it was both the 'left' and the 'right' billionaires driving the narratives. Until people can understand that, we remain divided. I can't tell you how much I was accused of being one of those right wing nutjobs by supposed liberal people, for questioning the narratives being spewed on all mainstream media news sources, while people like Camp, who had a whole journalistic team covering every issue, were destroyed by Thiel (former 'liberal) and these same billionaires. These buzzwords 'left' and 'right' mean nothing anymore. It's all tower of BABBLE now. Camp didn't give up after 8 years of his investigative reports on YouTube (Thiel, Google) were ERASED after YT banned him and the only outlet who would carry him is RT (Russian Times.) All the 'alternative' 'rebel' platforms are owned by these same yayhoos - Rumble, Oddysea, Bitchute, etc. I'm not trying to be debbie doomsday but, how have people missed all of this?!
My only hope is that people on both/all contrived 'sides' begin to wake up, see how we've all been played, reclaim our humanity, and say no to the bs and refuse to comply. A pipe dream, but it keeps me going.
Yes, it's gone over the top, with what end in sight--who knows? Sorry to hear about what people considered about you during this build-up of --this chaotic demise.
It didn't surprise me. People in fear are not rational. Afraid is one thing; living in fear is s whole other thing. There was and continues to be a lot of scaremongering from the top down. Of course people are not at their best.
Here is a tip, should anyone decide to look into following the money. Look who and what the Shareholders are. The names Blackrock, State Street, Vanguard, and Morgan Stanley will be near or at the top of just about... everything.
I keep hearing that tRump and his ilk and cronies are about to overplay their hands. But even if that's true, they've done so much damage already that recovery is going to take decades.
Destruction is so much easier than construction. The wrecking ball does its job in a few hours, destroying what took months or even years to build. And we are being wrecked with abandon.
Robin ... that's the tragedy.
I forgot to say thank you, Joyce. This is brave and necessary work you are doing. If even one person is reached, wants to dig deeper to see for themselves, or begins to question the connections and patterns, it is not work done in vain.
Thanks BB ... your words are an encouragement. And you are also a much appreciated part of the resistance.
I hate to even say what I am about to say, but picture an iceberg with about 5% above water. This scratches the surface at least - and the dominoes have been quietly being set up for at least 100 years in THIS empire. You're right; all that has to happen now is the first domino falling. It's not a conspiracy theory if it's happening and been happening.
Also we need to remember that of the two parties that have been allowed (every other 3rd party has been smashed except a few Greens and Libertarians -Thanks to liability-free insider trading of corporations and real estate - LLCs, DBAs, etc - it's hard to know who is giving orders to whom; including the presidents. But.. you're on the right track by looking into Thiel and Musk (and Vance) and the shell games with paypal and technocracy as the way they intend to effect the entire takeover. Which is why I don't feel like participating, no matter what the siren call of technology. Now think lobbyists, who often become CEOs of said corrupt companies - in and out of politics. This is what we have going on - a perpetual revolving door - for at least a century but I think much longer. It has reached crisis state now since billionaires like Musk are blatantly not giving a crap about any of us now.
Libertarians hate taxation - some propose flat tax of 10% - imagine how someone on $10 K a year would feel that, as opposed to billionaires who can offshore and hide most of their assets - a drop in the bucket if they pay at all. But I don't know where they think the money will come from if we don't have a government or at least SOME checks and balances. The people in power want to destroy them all, as we know. That is the crisis we face. I'd like to think they can't. But in speaking with my Canadian friends and Mexican friends, they see it so much clearer than folks here in the USA..
Every president was following orders from On High; we must acknowledge and remember that. (Heather Cox Richardson dives into our history some.) If not, they were bullied or threatened into compliance, or, as in the case of JFK, assassinated. DJT is following orders now. Presidents are the front men - some willingly, some not, once they know what kind of game they're in. The choice then is sell out, comply (to protect loved ones, often), do the minimum they have to of the Agenda and maybe be allowed to get a few 'wins' on their campaign promises, or get out of politics altogether.
It is up to the people on the bottom of the pyramid to change this - and it starts with consciousness. I think we - conservatives, independents, anarchists, progressives, and liberals - whatever labels are used - are in big trouble, Critical-Thinking-Wise. The first thing we all and each must do is throw off our conditioning, which takes a tremendous amount of work and practice - and everything that we've been 'told' is true. The second is to dig down in the muck, as you are doing now. I've been digging for a few decades now, trying not to lose heart. But it is exhausing, and there are folks who've already done so much work on this already.
I'm trying to find common ground even with people very different than me. If 'they' (those with the power, money, and assets) want us to destroy each other and ourselves, this seems to be the most revolutionary act we have right now.
I fully believe musk effed with the elections in battleground states. I’m a voter from Helene-hit western NC. I’ve watched how voting patterns have changed radically since republicans ran all over my state in 2010 and had legislation ready to gerrymander the living Hell out of my formerly purple state. This was just after the Supreme Court began gutting the VRA. So knowing that, the western part of the state voted blue for the first time since 2010. We elected democrats as Gov, Lt. Gov, Att. General, Superintendent of Ed. and Allison Riggs for Supreme Court(that election is STILL up in the air thanks to a sore tail loser republican Jeff Griffin who’s trying to have over 60,000 votes in primarily blue counties, tossed out). Yet after voting for all those Democrats, we are to believe that they then crossed over and gave tramp the presidency? I don’t think so. So I’m pretty sure there was some fuckery going on in those states that really counted.
We are living in a strange world, my hubby has always said there is something about both Musk and Trump that doesn't feel right to him and would trust them as far as he could throw them
What if you're right. And what if the tech bros rigged the election?
You know the old saying about when you point the finger at someone, 3 more are pointing back at you? Well, this proves it in my mind because they've accused the 2020 elections of being rigged, committed acts of violence (and were pardoned by the same regime accusing) etc. It's like the jealous cheater accusing the wife or husband of cheating. It smells rotten, and it likely is.
The playbook for the last 8-10 years has been, whatever we do, accuse the Dems of doing it before they accuse us. So if they've accused the Dems of stealing an election, you can bet the possibility has already been strongly considered in their own camp and in my view, given the cast of characters, more than likely. And because the DNC wouldn't want to admit that the US govt is broken beyond redemption, they would very possibly not make the info public even if they knew. It's normal that when someone accuses someone else of something, it's something they'd think to do themselves and not necessarily anything to do with the accused party. Exactly as you say.
It's mind-breaking to think about ... and unfortunately, no longer seems impossible.
Have you read USA today (of all papers) Op Ed today? ‘Billionaire Musk bought control of US government and conspiracy theorists sure are quiet’ Writer Rex Huppke is right! Where are those complainers from the right on this stunt? And btw- who was their higher bidders? That those baby tech bros and boss chose to expose all our info to me while rapping the US treasury?
Thanks, Jeanine … strange times indeed. Tough times bring out new heroes … she tells herself … we’ll see who steps forward in the coming times.
PS there was a 2 or 3 day summit in LA called All In, sponsored by David Sacks ,paypal, billionaire David Friedberg and 2 other billionaires that included a high profile line-up: M*sk, JD V%nce, Thiel, Benioff, Megyn Kelly, Mike Ovitz/hollywood, Krysn Simena,and others. Think the presumptive word here, excepting the (I) former AZ senator and perhaps kelly, is billionaire. And the title for conf: rather telling, yes, they were/are All In. I guess our govt was for sale and we didn't even know it. Have you read Kirsten Powers' powerful SubS today?
Some of us were trying to sound the alarm, years ago. Journalists. Comedians even - Lee Camp was one - and it was both the 'left' and the 'right' billionaires driving the narratives. Until people can understand that, we remain divided. I can't tell you how much I was accused of being one of those right wing nutjobs by supposed liberal people, for questioning the narratives being spewed on all mainstream media news sources, while people like Camp, who had a whole journalistic team covering every issue, were destroyed by Thiel (former 'liberal) and these same billionaires. These buzzwords 'left' and 'right' mean nothing anymore. It's all tower of BABBLE now. Camp didn't give up after 8 years of his investigative reports on YouTube (Thiel, Google) were ERASED after YT banned him and the only outlet who would carry him is RT (Russian Times.) All the 'alternative' 'rebel' platforms are owned by these same yayhoos - Rumble, Oddysea, Bitchute, etc. I'm not trying to be debbie doomsday but, how have people missed all of this?!
My only hope is that people on both/all contrived 'sides' begin to wake up, see how we've all been played, reclaim our humanity, and say no to the bs and refuse to comply. A pipe dream, but it keeps me going.
Yes, it's gone over the top, with what end in sight--who knows? Sorry to hear about what people considered about you during this build-up of --this chaotic demise.
It didn't surprise me. People in fear are not rational. Afraid is one thing; living in fear is s whole other thing. There was and continues to be a lot of scaremongering from the top down. Of course people are not at their best.
Here is a tip, should anyone decide to look into following the money. Look who and what the Shareholders are. The names Blackrock, State Street, Vanguard, and Morgan Stanley will be near or at the top of just about... everything.
Thanks, I’ll look for her post.